RAP and Duty Limits

How does RAP and duty limits work? As in, let’s say you’re on RAP from 4AM-4PM, and you get picked up for a trip at 3 PM.
Does RAP not count towards your duty time (and they could theoretically have you on RAP starting at 4, pick you up for a trip at 3, and have you fly until 11 PM)? Or does it, and they could only assign you maybe a one-leg trip after sitting on RAP for so long?
Does the difference between ready reserve, short call, and long call have any bearing in this as well?

Ben

Ben,

This is actually (potentially) a fairly complicated conversation. Part 117 of the FARs dictate rest, duty limits and how that’s all affected by RAPs. There’s actually a table that adjusts the maximum duty time based on a pilot being acclimated in their time zone, the number of legs, the time of day their duty started and whether it’s an augmented crew (ie, 3, 4 person crew vs standard 2).

With most of that considered the general catch all is you can’t be on duty for more than 16hrs and your duty period starts at the beginning of your RAP. In your scenario, if your RAP started at 0400, you must be done by 2000 (16hrs later). So if they called you at 1500 (3pm), you’d only be good for 5hrs. Long call Reserve would not into play as that’s the concept of long call. You must be called no later than 12hrs prior to your trip to give you enough time for rest prior to your trip so they can assign you pretty much anything.

Now all the above is based on the FARs. Many airlines have contract language that may restrict duty periods further. For example at Hawaiian, for interisland, they cannot assign you anything that takes your beyond your RAP.

Adam

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Ben,
Adam did a great job answering your question. I’ll just add the FDP limit chart below so you can see where he is getting these numbers. For a visual learner is helps to see…

Basically, there are a a couple factors that determine what your limit can be. In your example, it would be legal to be given a trip on the last hour of a reserve day, however, typically crew support would only call you as a last option. If there is an RE2/PM reserve that would fit the footprint of the trip better and not be as limited on FDP, typically they will go with that person instead of you.

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-Hannah

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Ben,

Do not worry if this seems totally confusing to you. It is confusing and very hard to keep track of. Fortunately there is an app for that and the airline’s computer programs track all of this, of course you are ultimately the one responsible to make sure you are in compliance.

We had a much simpler system that needed some work. Instead of using a screwdriver to make small adjustments, the FAA took a sledge hammer to the rules and came up with this monstrosity that you need an app to track.

Chris

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Chris,

Sounds like a “learn it as you go” type of thing. :wink:

Ben