I’ve been seeing and hearing a fair amount of scuttlebutt regarding ATP instructors being moved to W2 employees rather than 1099 independent contractors as they were previously - I’m curious if there is any further information on this?
I also just saw a memo indicating that ATP instructors must meet a minimum flight hour quota per quarter - While I don’t think that these numbers are unreasonable, and everyone wants to build their time, I just found it to be a bit surprising…
This is a big change… seems to me like a win win though. This helps students stay on time in the program and helps ensure instructors stay proficient and continue to build time efficiently. So that’s a minimum of 50 hours for the slower “winter” months and 66 hours per month for the others.
I definitely don’t feel like the hours are unachievable depending on seasons, weather, etc. I think it is probably a good thing, but I’m not an instructor so just wanted to hear opinions. I appreciate all your feedback!
I guess, regarding the W-2 Status, it seems as though it is only in place in Arizona for now, and hearing from CFI who just left, he said employees will be W-2 with benefits and earn a base rate of 15 hours a week for grounds/pre-flight/briefings/additional administrative stuff. I’m curious what the pay-rate is based off, I’d imagine the $17.25 per hour ground rate listed on the website but I have no idea
Not sure if you guys are able to find any more hard data, I would love to see some official documentation as I still haven’t seen ANYTHING official…
Thanks
I just noticed the ATP site was recently changed, specifically with regards to the CFI job. It used to display hourly rates for instructors as well as the bonus amounts for students passing their checkrides first-try but it no longer does. I’m assuming this could be because of some of the changes we discussed previously.
The site now says:
“As a licensed Certified Flight Instructor who completed ATP’s Airline Career Pilot Program, you can expect to earn approximately $3,200 to $4,000 per month*. This is based on providing around 70 hours of flight instruction, 20 hours of simulator (AATD) instruction, and achieving 2-3 check ride passes each month. *Specific compensation schedules may vary by training center.”
I’m still curious if any of the mentors have seen, heard, or received any further information on the changes, rumors, etc. that I brought up back in March.
No worries Brady,
Seems as though I’ll find out soon enough - My student extranet dashboard indicated that ATP has earlier start dates and since I finished all my written exams, I figured why not give them a call and see what they’ve got…so now I start Monday (24th of June) instead of July 15th.
I appreciate all the mentor’s inputs and advice over the past few years that I’ve been researching ATP. I’ll probably not be active much on here in the near future but will make a post and update my experiences as I’m able!
Thanks again!
-Steve
Nice, better to start sooner than later! Don’t worry too much about the CFI job compensation and benefits now. Things can and do change often. Focus now on one rating at a time, once flight or sim at a time. Being successful in the program is the best way you can set yourself up for future employment! Good luck, looking forward to seeing progress pictures as you hit the major milestones!
Thanks Hannah,
Yeah I definitely am not worried about it now - My first post was before I heard for sure if I was going to be able to move the class date up or not. I was still in my research phase
-Steve
Chris,
I figured the same - I was glad I scheduled it as far out as I did originally so I could focus on knocking all the written tests out but now that I’m done with them, it seemed like a no-brainer once I saw the notice on my dashboard
Thanks for your insights over the past few years! I’m excited to get going and I’ll update when I’m able!
-Steve
Congrats on the earlier start date, getting started sooner than later will be beneficial as the industry changes. Getting those writtens out will definitely make your Day 1 and on more relaxed then worrying about the writtens.
