I have 5 check ride failures, CFII 4 times and MEI 1 time. All failures were on the ground portion of the rides. Currently ant 900 overs and have over 600 hours dual given. Any chance into getting a job at a part 121 carrier ?
Justin,
What I’ve learned over the years is like many things, getting hired is often about supply and demand. Not that long ago the airlines went into crisis mode and were grabbing anyone who had 1500hrs and could fog a mirror. Fortunately that time had passed (for now) and the bar’s been raised somewhat. What I’m saying is it really depends on who’s hiring and how much they need bodies.
If it were me I contact some Regional recruiters or go to some hiring events and ask them directly. That said their biggest concern will be can you get through newhire training which is very expensive for an airline. You’ll need to convince them you’re not a bad investment.
Adam
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Justin,
Oral portion, 4 times on one checkride? Was it around the same area of operation or task? While you seem to be successful in other aspects of the checkrides, you will need to own these 5 checkride failures come interview time. I applaud you for actually getting the CFI-I done and not giving up.
While everyone wants to look at the quantity of hours required under 61.159 to become an airline pilot, some need to look at the quality. I am sure these checkride failures will come up during an interview and potentially be a challenge if panels are hiring small numbers of new hires at a time. Be open-minded, take every interview with an opportunity to learn and grow, and eventually the time will come.
As Adam said, reach out to some regional airline recruiting departments and see what they would recommend or have to say about the chances.
Brady
Thanks Adam!!
Really? Wow! That’s a pretty arrogant (and foolish) attitude. And btw if you’re so certain, why are you on here asking the question? (unless you thought 4 was fine but 5 wasn’t?).
Here’s a little friendly advise, you had better come up with a better response when asked than the one above. I’ve been on hiring panels and if I heard (or even smelt) a hint of above attitude you’d be a HARD no!
Adam
Justin,
The thing is, every application I’ve seen asked “have you ever failed a checkride and if so how many.” The hiring panel will see 5 and jump to a conclusion about you. They might stick around long enough to hear 4 of the 5 were on the same ride but it still doesn’t make you look any better…. Now you place a lot of doubt in the panels mind that you’ll be successful getting through their training.
At this point you’ve already spent a lot of time and money pursuing it so you might as well get to 1500 hours and apply and see what happens. I wish you the best of luck but honestly it could go either way.
Hannah
Justin,
I am not as optimistic as the other mentors, I do not see you having much of a career in aviation, especially at the airlines. On top of that, your writing skills needs serious work, paying attention to things like correct spelling matters. I see your post, with a complete lack of attention to detail, couple that with five check ride failures, and assume that you do not put a lot of effort into tasks that you take on. Is that a fair or accurate assumption? Maybe, maybe not; but it should be a wakeup call to you to start paying attention to the details, they matter.
Chris
Hey Adam, I wasn’t trying to reply to anything I was just responding to what you said about not giving up and getting CFI-I done, that was all.
“I wasn’t trying to reply to anything”
Ummm, yea that wasn’t me regarding the II, but I’m pretty sure you hit the button labeled “Reply” soooo…
Adam