SIM use in training

ATP Admissions, Housing & Finance Questions
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Past students mentioned using Sims in training. I’m wondering if all locations have use of simulators, or is it just a select few? If so, which locations have them?

Thanks again,

Daniel

2

Daniel,

Every location has at least one sim. Students have 24 hour access to them.

Tory

3

Daniel,

All of the locations have Flight Training devices. While the word “sim” is often used by students and instructors, that is technically incorrect as a simulator has full motion capabilities. You won’t see one of those until you are at an airline.

Chris

4

Tory and Chris, thank you so much for the response. So ATP is open 24 hours a day?

5

No, but students have access to the training center.

Tory

6

Students have access to the FTDs to operate at any time? I’ve done some “hangar flying” in a parked plane before to practice checklists and procedures, but this is a whole new level! That’s awesome!

7

It is a nice privilege. It goes without saying, it is not to be abused, but
it can make all the difference when learning multi engine flows/memory
procedures/checklists and instrument flying.

Tory

8

On a related topic, I noticed that some airlines accept SIM time up to a limit, but I’m assuming that FTD does not count at all in one’s TT?

9

Daniel,

When airlines (or the FAA) talk about sim time they’re referring to full-motion Level D sims. These are incredibly complex and realistic devices and their use is almost as expensive as the aircraft they represent.

Adam

10

I thought so, nonetheless access to a FTD will be invaluable. Thanks again Tory and Adam.

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The only exception that applies to ATP students, in regards to FTD time, is
when you’re applying for the commercial multi rating. Applicants will be
able to credit up to 50 hours of FTD time towards the minimum of 250 TT
required per FAR 61.129(i)(1)(i). Note that FTD time is only loggable if
accompanied by an appropriately rated instructor.

Also, the 50 hours of FTD time only counts if the FTD was configured and
representative of the aircraft used for the commercial multi check ride. In
an ATP student’s case, that would mean that the FTD would need to be
configured as a PA-44. The only time this can get tricky is if a student is
in the 40 hour multi program because the instrument training will be in
either a CE-172 or PA-28, but the instrument phase also includes FTD
training. It sounds weird, but the FTD will have to be configured as a
PA-44 for those FTD instrument lessons.

Flight instructors are aware of this. The first few sims will be
challenging, but the instrument scan is essentially the same.

Tory

danieltbrown https://airlinepilot.life/u/danieltbrown Daniel
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December 13

I thought so, nonetheless access to a FTD will be invaluable. Thanks again
Tory and Adam.

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Adam https://airlinepilot.life/u/adam
https://airlinepilot.life/u/adam Pilot Mentor
December 13

Daniel,

When airlines (or the FAA) talk about sim time they’re referring to
full-motion Level D sims. These are incredibly complex and realistic
devices and their use is almost as expensive as the aircraft they represent.

Adam
danieltbrown https://airlinepilot.life/u/danieltbrown Daniel
https://airlinepilot.life/u/danieltbrown
December 13

On a related topic, I noticed that some airlines accept SIM time up to a
limit, but I’m assuming that FTD does not count at all in one’s TT?
Tory https://airlinepilot.life/u/tory Pilot Mentor
December 12

It is a nice privilege. It goes without saying, it is not to be abused, but
it can make all the difference when learning multi engine flows/memory
procedures/checklists and instrument flying.

Tory
Kpounder https://airlinepilot.life/u/kpounder Kyle
https://airlinepilot.life/u/kpounder
December 12

Students have access to the FTDs to operate at any time? I’ve done some
“hangar flying” in a parked plane before to practice checklists and
procedures, but this is a whole new level! That’s awesome!
Tory https://airlinepilot.life/u/tory Pilot Mentor
December 12

No, but students have access to the training center.

Tory

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Excellent to know, thank you Tory!

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