Love seeing and hearing the growth about Airlines. Here’s a quick 11-minute video from Long Haul by Simple Flying regarding United’s 2022 growth and beyond. It is amazing to see how the industry is recovering and bouncing back. This YouTube channel provides a lot of insight throughout the airline industry, along with AIN (Aviation International News).
United Airlines’ Enormous Fleet In 2022 And Beyond - YouTube
Brady
Thank you for sharing this.
Chris
Brady,
I love Simple Flying! Really informative.
Speaking of United, did you hear how they’re turning Aviate into more of a traditional “flow”?
I’d also be curious as to what everyone’s thoughts are that United will actually take the Overture and ES-19 orders. We’ve seen in the past quite a few orders fall through, but they are definitely very exciting aircraft. 
Ben
These changes are relaxing the entry requirements and opening up a greater opportunity for employment to United. It’s been advertised that eventually they want to hire only from Aviate (aside from military).
-Hannah
That’s definitely bold to commit to only hiring from Aviate. I guess they have a lot of faith in the future of their regionals, especially the ones only flying 50-seaters?
Ben
Ben,
Ive seen nothing saying they’re only hiring from Aviate?
Adam
@Adam It’s a sentiment that has been consistent throughout the program newsletters and the virtual seminars. It’s a goal but nothing written in stone yet. Interesting though…
I was going based off what Hannah was saying. 
Ben
Hannah,
It may be a sentiment but frankly there’s no way they can fill all their vacancies with just their Regional partners unless the cannibalize them to the point of failure. It is however a great recruiting tool!
Adam
What I read from United is that they plan to hire up to 24% of the Aviate transition list each year. This does mean that a significant portion of their new hires will be coming from the Aviate program.
Chris
Chris,
If I am reading this correctly, does this mean one can expect to transition to United in no more than 4 years (24%*4 = 96%), or is that of those who are eligible to transition (meaning it’ll take much longer)?
Ben
“Only” and “significant number” have 2 very different meanings.
Adam
I’m just relaying information that I know! Don’t shoot the messenger
Ben,
It is 24% of the Aviate transition list. The program has changed quite a bit from its inception until now. I’ll check and see if I can get a more accurate timeline.
-Hannah
Hannah,
Interesting. I wonder if a copy of that contract is online somewhere? That definitely pales in comparison to the stories I’ve heard from AA WO pilots of 5, 6, 7+ years before flow.
Ben
Ben,
I am sure there are numerous out clauses for United in this. There is no way they are locking themselves into taking pilots within four years. If the airlines has no need for pilots, they are not going to force more hiring onto themselves. Now it might very well happen in four years, but I am sure there are out clauses for UAL.
Chris
Ben,
Here are the specifics:
“ * Secure your path to United with a minimum of 2,000 flight hours (1,500 flight hours if upgraded to Captain) and 24 months of service with a United Express Aviate partner
Once you meet the minimum transition requirements you go on the flow list. Then up to 24% of the list each year. So two year minimum then you get on the list and wait to be pulled based on United need. To clarify what I said earlier, there is no time limit. Based on current Aviate participants at partner regional carriers, word of mouth (based on how the list has been moving) estimating about 3-4 years if the demand stays consistent.
-Hannah